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That's odd because almost every scrap of news from that war is Ukraine blowing up Russia plants and gas and stockpiles yet the truth of it is Ukraine is facing the energy crisis? This was is so propagandized I really have no idea what to believe anymore .

More_Net4011

This is one of those sectors where Europe could contribute heavily and easily without risking war involvement.

At the very beginning of the war we could have pushed for heavy energetic infrastructure investments.. with stuff like HVD and HVAC connections with Ukraine as well as massive renewables plans and energetic autonomy for EU.

The grid, especially on the west side, would be a very difficult target for Russia.

But we didn't. Well the second best time to do it is now.

AkagamiBarto

Zelensky promised a blackout in Russian capital. Little did we know, the Russian capital is in Kiev.

In all seriousness, I think Ukraine is in deep trouble come winter. Russia for the most part was only targeting specific plants until now, but switched to causing wide spread power outtages, probably as a response to Ukrainian efforts. Is it proportionate? No. Is it fair?  Also no. But why would it be.

 Russia also has many levels to escalate - they never touched many Dnipro bridges, tunnels into neighboring countries, even govt buildings in the capital. They can touch all of them, just choose not to.

RubberDuckRearGunner

I did a small writeup a couple of days ago (formatted with AI) on this subject. Quite prophetic indeed

https://old.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1opluup/ru_pov_the_fatal_asymmetry_why_ukraines_refinery

Exposed Refinery Components for Turbines/Transformers are not a good trade at all

Especially interesting that the company explicitly wrote that they just repaired certain power components since the last attack in 2024 (i think its a turbine), and it is blown up again.

lolthenoob

Aside from bombing Russia back, Ukraine should pick one Russian city and make it permanently unlivable until the war ends. Since Belgorod is a logistics hub for Russia, make sure the electricity generation capabilities there are zero, wastewater management, gone, water pumps, gone, grid connections to rest of the country, gone, every time they repair something, erase it. Make them pack up and abandon the city.

rts93

A little misleading, not to zero in total. Three productions places from one company stopped completely and widespread blackout  but the nuclear plants still produce power, although far from whats needed.

farligjakt

I assume Ukraine will pay ruZZia back in kind. I think that was what Zelenskyy said a while ago, if ruZZia would continue targeting civilian infrastructure

Nunc-dimittis

Europe will look stupid when the entirety of Ukraine has to be evacuated. Just because they were too weak in their help.

Microtom_

I f&amp;%£ hate Russia. Please stay strong Ukraine.

Mission_Pizza9672

Time to pay back in kind AND help keeping Ukraine’s power plants / substations protected against the Russian onslaught.

Embarrassed_Lemon527

Prayers to the courageous defenders to send the invaders into the ground or limping back to their home country.

Glad_Fun_2292

I think Europe will soon face a new refugee wave and they could have prevented it in 2022 and 2023 with sufficient weaponry. But their cowardice speaks for themselves.

Previous-Egg885

If Ukraine goes for Moscow, what is Muscovy going to do, attack Ukraine? 


Fuck Ruzzia and its supporters.

Phyllis_Tine

Every power station in Mordor should just be immediately attacked until destroyed. They want to fuck around, let them find out.

It's time for Ukraine to ESCALATE.

VermilionKoala

Whilst it might feel proportionate to do in kind, strategically the focus should be on degrading the enemy means of attack. Powerstations and infrastructure supporting the biggest concentration of industry, factories are number 2 targets, military number 1. With what you have left over, that could go to rendering cities near the front less livable, since that diverts resources. 
 



I think that is what UA is currently doing. 

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viipurinrinkeli

"Both the family and the attacker intend to file complaints"

Wtf is the attacker gonna file a complaint for?

Anonymoose451

SuperiorDraft

A Russian-speaking man verbally and physically attacked a Ukrainian-speaking family with a child on a train in Switzerland, threatening them with death. The incident has drawn a reaction from Ukraine's Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA).
As reported by Swiss media outlet [20Minuten](https://www.20min.ch/story/spiez-be-mann-attackiert-familie-als-er-ukrainisch-hoert-103434048?version=1760544209631&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_medium=social), the incident occurred on 13 October on a train travelling from the Swiss municipality of Interlaken to the town of Spiez. It sparked wide attention on social media.
According to the people who were affected, the assailant was provoked by hearing them speak Ukrainian.
"When he heard we were speaking Ukrainian, he began insulting us," said the father of the family, whose parents are originally from Belarus.

The mother [recorded the attack on video and posted it on social media](https://youtu.be/xvy9Gyg0D9o?si=ZZj8aN9edjI3pGIn). The Russian-speaking man repeatedly threatened the family with death.
"I will kill you all – you and your family," he said.
He also snatched the phone from the woman when she tried to document the incident.

The father pushed him away, after which he calmed down. At Spiez station, the family and several witnesses reported the assault to the police.
Bern Canton police confirmed that the incident took place, but noted that no one was physically injured to the extent of needing medical treatment. The investigation is ongoing. Both the victims and the attacker intend to file complaints.
Ukraine's Foreign Ministry has reacted to the incident. Foreign Ministry spokesman [Heorhii Tykhyi](https://x.com/spoxukrainemfa/status/1978734364402819449?s=46&amp;t=JHHzChDbvSf3JHpnTV6Hcg) called the video "appalling".
"Unacceptable hate speech and ethnic hatred. We approached Swiss law enforcement asking them to investigate the incident and ensure accountability. Such conduct must not be tolerated," he said.
In February, it was reported that Prague authorities were investigating a tram driver who [attacked](https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/news/2025/02/28/7206090/) a family of Ukrainians with a small child, supposedly for staining a seat, and forcibly drove them off public transport.

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The main thing was that he shouted, in Russian, that he was Swiss and why they had come to his country.

Appropriate-Ball293

strangerimor

I wonder what this ruzzian patriot is doing in Switzerland? Let him go back to his swamps and show how cool he is there so that we can finally see a video of a drone flying in his face.

Historical-Bar-305

Why am I not surprised. Only hate and violence from these russia-loving-from-distance russian patriots (the case everywhere in the world from what I see). FU and go back to where you crawled out from.

OverPowered15

There also additional video surfaced(you can check it on NEXTA channel) with the same guy swearing and kicking the phone of another woman, idk why but i think there much more than 2 of such cases from this particular man.

Extension-Street323

Can you deport him or something? He can be a supporter at home. Fuck em.

uzu_afk

This is a clear cut case of russian minority being oppressed. Careful now Switzerland, you wouldn't want to be a target of a special military operation, would you?

Wally2905

What a pussy, agrees with his government but ran away so he doesnt have to actually face consequences for agreeing with them

edgyestedgearound

Maybe he can be put on a plane back to Russia and be unwillingly put in the trenches he mentions. Human piece of shit.

Hagwart

LaCornucopia_

Kick him out if a non-citizen, lock him up and put him on a watch list as a russian sympathizer/spy candidate if he has cirizenship.

Randalf_the_Black

AlgorithmSynesthesia

Reminds of the incident that occurred in NYC, when a Ukrainian man stabbed another Ukrainian man in the neck for simply speaking Russian. The hatred between both nations would probably linger on like the Pakistani-Indian/ Armenia-Azerbaijan hatred.

Ok_Situation_7081

About 80% of Ukrainians are "Russian-speaking". That's not saying much. Where is he *from*?

sidestephen

Scared-Thanks-9251

One is a mistake, two is a coincidence, three is on purpose

Manealendil

It wasn't a real attack aimed at destroying something in Poland. It was just another attempt to push the boundaries of what NATO considers acceptable. One drone is no longer even perceived as an attack - it's become routine. Fine, then 5, 10 drones. Next time 15 drones. Why should NATO respond to N+5 drones if they didn't respond to N? putin is simply testing how far he can go. The answer: as far as NATO and the EU allow him to

NoTradition9135

edgerunnerJune

"Writing on X, Tusk says: “Those drones that posed a direct threat were shot down. I am in constant communication with the Secretary General of Nato and our allies."

They should shoot down any drone which goes 1m over the border, like turkey did with the russian fighter jet.

Zhdophanti

What's the difference between red and yellow lines?

Folkmar_D

For all Americans looking at this, the country in the center isn't Poland. We are on the left side of the map, where a few of the yellow lines reach.

SkyburnerTheBest

What the fuck are the drones doing in Poland? Wait, let me rephrase that. What the fuck are they doing in Ukraine?

DiseasedProject

Did Russian drones ***attacked*** Poland actually or is this missleading?

toiletwisdom

Honest question, how do they create these kind of maps? How do they know where the drones and missiles coming from with the path? If they can track it in such a detail why not shoot them?

Artistic_Cod2923

Nato Collective defence and Article 5:  
If a NATO Ally is the victim of an armed attack, each and every other member of the Alliance will consider this act of violence as an armed attack against all members 

Meanwhile NATO: We don’t know yet, it was a mistake, relax and wait until you see russian tanks moving throught BL border towards Poland

Vanille97

Really interesting flight path cluster and strike right around Pokrovsk. I hadn’t noticed such a sharply curved flight path before and there is clear intent to strike a particular target. I hope any Ukrainians in that strike zone are okay.

WhenTheLightHits30

It is not too hard to find the russian bots in this thread ...

buffaloburley

Probably jammed drones that lost guidance and ended up in Poland. Nothing new and nothing that won't happen again. There won't be a war, anyone with half a brain won't be sending an army anywhere because a few drones in Poland lol. Europe will play another show for the media and plebs about how they condemn this move and in a week not a word will be said about it. No big deal.

MechanicTop7210

Looks like a few went off course. 19 sounds like a lot, but keep in mind they fire 800+ drones in one night sometimes.

AuramiteEX

probably damaged, jammed  and lost drone  crossing boundary to Poland

froggy4cz

![gif](giphy|qNP0mdoXrhwC4)

When you see tenth comment saying it's ukrainian provocation

BlackCommissar

Significant-Yam9843

I thought majority of them flew into Poland from Belarus?

fajko98

This map was not published by Ukrainian officials. It was done by [volunteers in a Telegram channel](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2enwk1l9e1t?post=asset%3Aaeb48a86-84f7-43f7-95ce-483d6c42e91d#post).

Unredditable5

I'm a bit confused, on this map they flew from Ukraine, but some other sources claim they were launched from Belarus DIRECTLY into Poland. Were those separate drones?

roland_the_insane

That looks like 5 drones entered the country?

Snooflu

Chinchilla2005

Simple solution: extend Nato air cover over Ukraine

Kind-Handle3063

seriouskot

With all respect, this is a map of drone attacks on Ukraine, not Poland.

pafagaukurinn

Looks like a map of russian drone attacks on Ukraine to me

Captain__Campion

To everyone saying that they probably got jammed and flew into Poland by mistake:

Why did this happen with so many of them after such a long war only now? 

I'm not saying they were trying to attack. I think it's a deliberate way of testing the boundaries and making a mockery out of NATO. Also the Russians are working very hard to divide Polish people on the issues of war and this is a great way of causing shitty arguments between Poles.

Rogue_Egoist

Zestyclose_Jello6192

Wait, it wasnt just a few drones sent directly to poland from Belarus? Must be fake

Still_Gas_2774

Can’t be accurate, now they say some of the drones came directly from Belarus

AlexNachtigall247

NOTHING EVER HAPPENS KURWA. Honestly it feels like shit that we don't do anything to punish this blatant declaration of war.

LegacyWright3

The pattern is undeniable at this point. It's getting harder to accept the "mistake" explanation with each new incident. We all know exactly what the threshold for action is, and they're counting on us being too slow to reach it.

Every_Needleworker27

Misleading Poland. Official already came out and said they don’t think it was intentional

heimos

this is much worse than a mistake, how do you fly over a whole corner of belarus by accident and then into poland

WolfsmaulVibes

I would remember that Ukraine also flies drones over European territory and Belarus to strike in Russia so I don't see the problem.

Alpenkraftens

Ok_Agent_7803

Why are they attacking Belarus with their drones? It doesnt make sense

Yitastics

Mendetus

Perfect-Test6249

Curlypower

It's too bad we couldn't hack them and return them to the sender as a kamikaze.

DarkSideofEarth420

How long are these fiber optic wire for drones? Hundreds of miles?

Adventurous_Crab_0

AnalphabeticPenguin

Russia has already stated that the logistics coming into Ukraine are legitimate targets.  Seems like this was just a step to get to that point.

ColdNorthern72

Let's see what the presidential russian asset has to say about a NATO ally being attacked by the reason for its creation.

mulligrubs

Far_Note6719

Its funny seeing the drones flying into polish territory and then realizing they need to go back, but getting shot before reaching Ukraine again

_Lyand_

Son-Airys

The worst thing is nothing will change, Russia will continue to fly drones into Poland and perhaps the Baltics.

ggalinismycunt

I wonder if they weren't really really worried about something getting shipped in, to track it so they could deal with it once it crossed the border.  I wonder if more HIMARs or something equally scary was enroute.

Whackjob-KSP

Did there drones actually attack places in Poland?

drumpat01

As Polish person ,does that mean land on our border will be chaper :0? If so this is my opprtunity

Mamroth

What do the different colors mean for the flight paths and the explosion icons on the map?

modemdyi

HandInternational140

Basileios_Makedon_I

Russians calls nato bluffs constantly. Absolutely nothing will happen because of this.

ah yes. Propaganda spreading. yes it's totally "just to test nato" for country who is both "ready to attack whole world right now without nukes", but also "on the werge of collapse tommorrow". who is "weak to conquer ukraine" but "strong to attack nato". But i guess logical reason like - drones aimed by GPS and ukraine/allies just scrambled GPS in some region so some drones "attack nato" (so they join the war) is out of window like Russian lucoil management. Yes people really logical (not)

Azitzin

Is that the same like the 2 missiles Russia fired into Poland much earlier in the war?

RkeRkeR

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